Friday, February 25, 2011

Book Discussion: Courting Morrow Little

Welcome! I'm so glad you could join us today to discuss a very special book written by a very sweet friend. There's plenty of room for everyone on the couches in the parlor here.

But before we get the discussion going, step on over to the tables and fill your plates with food! I thought I would get us some tea, scones, sandwiches, and fruit from one of my favorite hole-in-the-wall treasures in my home county--Mad Hatter's Tea Party. So yummy! Take a look at these treats from the tea place:

"Alice's Sandwich Set"

"Mozart's Tea"

"Queen of Hearts"

The lady who runs this place is so sweet, and her scones--delicious! So help yourself, and I'll get the discussion started.

Today we're discussing Courting Morrow Little by Laura Frantz. This book is absolutely amazing, and if you haven't read it yet, I very highly recommend it! Click HERE if you'd like to read my review.

Even if you haven't read the book, please feel free to join in the discussion. I can't guarantee that spoilers won't be given, so proceed with caution. But we'd love to have as many people as possible share their thoughts about the ideas raised in this novel!

And that brings me to one more point of business. Laura talked about this discussion in a post on her blog yesterday, and she has generously offered to give away a $25 Amazon.com gift card to someone who comments here during this discussion or on the post on her blog (which can be found HERE). The winner will be announced next Friday, March 4th. So there's even more incentive to join us! ;)

Following are some discussion questions to get us started, but don't let these questions limit you! Pick one topic to discuss, discuss all of them, or discuss something else this book brought to mind--imaginations are quite welcome here!
  • Morrow got to experience fine society--both the pros and cons of city life. But at the very beginning of the book the reader only sees those two years as a memory. Instead of going out to a strange new world at the beginning of this story, Morrow is returning to a familiar land. And yet, Morrow has changed, and she now sees Kentucke in a new way. If you were Morrow, would you have stayed in Philadelphia or gone back to Kentucke? Why? Did you have to make a difficult decision about where to live once you became an adult? If so, how did you make your choice?
  • Morrow's life--her world--is much different from our own lives. The setting, the clothing, the choice of suitors, the conflicts with the Native Americans...all are a part of history, although Laura does a wonderful job of making history come alive. While this time period is far removed from our own, what were the similarities you identified with that made this story universal in its scope? In what ways did you relate with Morrow Little or one of the other characters?
  • And now for the character we've all been wanting to talk about--Red Shirt! If you haven't read the book, there might be some spoilers pertaining to this part of the discussion, just to warn you. ;) For those of you who have read the book, what drew you to Red Shirt? What scenes with him most stand out in your memory? What qualities make him a hero you want to cheer for, and what qualities make him unique from heroes in other novels? And if you were Morrow, would you have married Red Shirt, knowing the risks and challenges ahead, or would you have married someone else? (Don't worry, you won't be cast out from the group if you wouldn't choose Red Shirt, although I'm sure we'd all be quite curious in regards to your reasons!)
If you'd like some more discussion questions/topics, click HERE to read a list created by the author herself. And go ahead and take a moment to enjoy this picture from Laura's blog of the real Red Shirt (far right). Quite the inspiration for a character, I'd say!

Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

31 comments:

Joy Tamsin David said...

Amber! Thanks so much for linking up to the book club discussion this month! We'd love to have you link up again in March.

I have said this before, Laura Frantz books are on my list to read this year. I will be caught up and able to discuss pretty soon.

In the meantime, I'm scared to look too close to this post. Gotta get my hands on this book ASAP!

Casey said...

I have to take the question about Red Shirt, but first to share a fun story. We were cutting firewood in the woods this last fall, not long after I had read Morrow and I thought I saw a flash of red out of the corner of my eye. I instantly thought of Red Shirt and had to take a double look. Nothing was there, but I will admit to a disappointment in my spirit. :) I had to email Laura later and let her know. That's the kind of book that sticks with you! :)

I loved how quiet Red Shirt was and how unsettled he could make Morrow. It wasn't a creepy unsettled, but the kind that changes you from the inside out. He just was. And I loved how their love played out in the quiet of his presence. He didn't need words to proclaim his love. And though I'm a romance lover and like to hear those age old words, Red Shirt lived those words and it was pulled off without leaving me wanting to hear that proclamation.

I always was just a tad jealous of Morrow. I could live out in the wilderness with no problem. :) Though I would miss my blogging... LOL!

I'll visit again soon, this is going to be fun!!

Renee Ann said...

So many folks in real life and literature feel compelled to return home like Morrow. And it seems that they want two things. In one way, they're searching for all that home was to them. But in another way, perhaps because of a tragic memory, they are hoping that things will be different from when they last were there. And many of us in "real life" have had days when we would like to have the power to transform our everyday, familiar surroundings into something magically different--if only for a few hours!

Morrow got that wish so I was glad she went home. And to me the whole trying to be ladylike against the rough background of pioneer life thing makes her character seem so delicate and lovely. She's a good foil to help us appreciate Red Shirt.

I think a character's small actions make him or her come alive. So I loved how Red Shirt made Morrow the cape, guarded her, didn't want to be a burden to her. And, of course, the heroine nursing the hero back to health, while he protests that he's tough, etc., makes for some great romantic scenes. This novel reminded me of some of my favorite historical fiction reads from way back when. I recently downloaded it onto my Kindle so I could read it again. (I guess that doesn't count for your contentment challenge, Amber, because I re-read but spent money to do it!)

Hannah Miller said...

I would like to combine parts of question one and two together for my part in this discussion (In what ways do you relate to Marrow Little? And, Did you have to make a difficult decision about where to live when you became an adult?) if it‘s all right with everyone. It has been quite some time since I read this book but I find as I read the questions I remember more of the story.
This was my favourite, I do know that. Marrow reminded me a little bit of myself. Her life was at a point where it was changing. She was experiencing new feelings and learning knew things. I too am at a point in my life where my life is changing. I am experiencing new feelings and having to make new decisions.
I found myself biting my lip and hoping that Marrow, in the end, made the right choices. It's so hard to try and choose what God wants for your life. I want to do only what God has called me to do and sometimes that involves me having choose a path that I don't necessarily scream for joy at following.
Once I finished CML, I realized that God will guide you into what he wants for your life. I found that this was the theme to the story. Maybe it was just what spoke to me the most. God will help you make the right choices in life, just like he did with Marrow. This book has really helped me through my moments of change and I think that's why I enjoyed this novel the most. It's not very often that I identify personally with a character but I did with Marrow.
Though I am not really an adult I would like to answer the last part of the first question. I have been the daughter of a missions family for the past twelve years of my life. I have only ever stayed in one place for a maximum of six months at a time. The question of where I will live when I finally decide to settle down is one that nags me constantly. I love so many places and have no idea how I will ever choose. I realized after reading CML that God will place me wherever he wants me to be. Just like he will guide me and make me into the person he wants me to be. This book taught me so much. It really opened my eyes as to how much I worry unnecessarily. I need to learn to let things go into the hands of the Father and let him govern my life and lead my steps.
PS: I love your Red Shirt story Casey…it sounds like something I would do :)

Casey said...

LOL Hannah, glad I'm not the only one. :D

Bluerose said...

This is one I haven't got to read yet, so I skimmed. :) I one of those people who are disappointed if i read spoilers. :P And yet...here I am, at a book discussion. I couldn't resist.

I went to the Mad Hatter's Tea Party page and I'm so jealous!! We don't have anything like that around here, and it looks adorable. I love Alice in Wonderland, so I'm guessing I would have fun there.

Elise A. Wilson said...

I was drawn to the book, CML after reading the brief description on amazon. I was particularly interested in the combined themes of race relations, romance/love and forgiveness -- all universal themes. And I wanted to see how Frantz treated the issues. I was hoping that she did not gloss over the more challenging and painful issues and skip right to the romance and/or to a love at first sight type storytelling. And she didn't -- thankfully.

What I appreciated most about the story was that it gave the reader a realistic journey through the character's lives so that we might understand how they came to think and act as they did, in particular Morrow and to some degree Red Shirt. After reading how Elias Little's faith was central to his being and how he lived, modeled and shared his faith with others, one could see how Morrow had the seeds of love and forgiveness planted in her at an early age. She had certain racial assumptions which were challenged and we can see how her faith (and personal experiences) gradually allowed her to transform her thinking -- to the point of forgiving Red Shirt for the sins of his people. And eventually falling in love with him -- someone whose people were responsible for so much pain and loss in her life.

And Red Shirt's demeanor (strong and brave, yet gentle and caring)allowed Morrow the freedom to make her own choices. He never forced issues -- he was simple Red Shirt, a man with his own sad story. And,he too, was influenced by Elias Little.

We continue to have some of the same issues (war, prejudice, sexism, etc.) in today's society and CML gives us a glimpse of what is possible when we turn to God for answers. The fact that Frantz uses romance (and a hero like Red Shirt -- swoon) to illustrate this point, makes the reading more engaging and palpable. CML continues to be a book that I reread because it has a powerful impact on my life. And now that I own a Kindle, I intend to purchase another copy for easy access. It is truly a remarkable book.

adge said...

The computer ate my comment, so I will have to write another one:

Let's see... I said CML was a definite page turner. This book had a lot of twists and turns.
I read the faithful reader questions, and #4 talked about Jemima. I had forgotten about her until I read the question, but she put me on edge from the beginning. She didn't seem to care about Morrow at all. And I think things were important to Jemima that didn't need to be so important.
I also agree with a lot of the comments before me, Morrow and Red Shirt's relationship was built on romance.

Trinity Rose said...

I got here to late. I just got the invite at GoodReads now. I've read Courting Morrow Little and loved it. It was one of my favorite books of 2010.
I like Morrow because she didn't hold on to being prejudice even though she felt like it at first. I didn't have to wonder where I would live because I got married and so that was taken care of.
Thanks for the invite.
Trinity Rose
wandaelaine at gmail dot com

Laura Frantz said...

Oh, you all make a too busy Friday a delight:) Wish I could have joined you earlier but duty calls. It's so fascinating to me to read each comment. Most of the time, authors just don't who their readers are or how a book speaks to them, if at all, and so this is a rare and treasured peek behind the scenes of the pages, so to speak. And I can't tell you how much I appreciate each one of you for taking time on a busy Friday to spend time here!!

Joy, I would love to have you as a reader when you find the time. With so many good books clamoring for attention, it's hard to make time for them all. I'd encourage you to start with Morrow first as they're not a series and TFD is more historical fiction while Morrow is historical romance. And I'm thinking you're big on romance like the rest of us here:)

Casey, I never tire of hearing your RS in the woods story no matter how many times you mention it or I hear it! That means he was larger than life - music to my ears... And I must admit I've always been a little envious of Morrow, too, and that's probably why I created her in the first place!

Laura Frantz said...

Ah, Renee Ann, I'm so glad you saw Morrow as feminine against that rugged backdrop of the frontier. That was certainly my intention:) And I love your comments about home. I think ultimately, heaven is our true home, so no earthly home really satisfies. Now that I think of it I wish I'd delved into that a bit more in the book. Maybe I'll push for a higher page count next go round. Hang on, folks! The Colonel's Lady is a whopper at 448 pages, my biggest yet:) But some of you have already given the thumbs up to big books!

Hannah, I have such a heart for your own journey as my brother is also a missionary. Thanks so much for sharing this here. I find it very moving to think you related to Morrow on a personal level. Since you both are about the same age, the parallels in other ways are striking, too. God really will direct your path, or make it straight, as Scripture says, by hemming you in by circumstances, people, and other creative things. Even books:)

Ruth said...

I ADORED this book. The sweetness and power of the Morrow/Red Shirt romance made my heart sing!

Laura Frantz said...

Bluerose, So glad you've come by - aren't Amber's pictures sweet!? No pun intended:) Also, her discussion questions are stellar! If you're like me this discussion won't spoil the reading for you. I can never recall them once I get round to the book. Thanks for stopping by!

Elise, I'm fascinated by what drew you to the book in the first place. You bring out such interesting insights and I appreciate your saying the seeds of faith were planted in Morrow by her father. That was my intent. Godly parents, or the lack of, pass on a legacy and I wanted his (and Morrow's) to be one of forgiveness. It's been such a huge issue in my own life that it seemed a natural thing to write about. Since my great-grandfather was Cherokee and married a white woman, I'm sure that worked itself into the story on some level.

It is always a touchy issue dealing about race and race relations. When you gave me the thumbs up regarding that, I felt I was on the right path. I hope you enjoy The Colonel's Lady as much. As I mentioned to you recently, I have a character I love within that book that nearly steals the show in unexpected ways and she's become, in retrospect, my favorite character. Thanks so much for stopping here and saying such heartfelt things. They mean so much!

Laura Frantz said...

Adge/Adrienne, I'm so sorry! Hannah here was also experiencing some blogger badness today! I think you know how much I appreciated your review on CBD when I came home from KY in December and found it waiting. I didn't care for Jemima either and felt she was a bad egg from the beginning. Her jealousy of Morrow was what derailed their relationship. Strangely, it is easier to write a bad character than a good one. I'm so glad you liked the novel's twists and turns. That seems to be what I'm known for:)


Trinity Rose/Wanda, So glad you're here! Since you are a voracious reader, hearing this was a favorite of yours last year makes me very happy. Like I said above, with so many books before us, that's a huge compliment. So glad to enter you in the drawing for the Amazon card. I'm sure you and others can put it to good use!

Laura Frantz said...

Ruth, You always say SO MUCH is so few words! I still remember after reading that you told me your heart hurt. You just don't know what that means. Mine certainly hurt writing it, every word. Thanks so much for stopping here. And happy Friday, dear friend!

Laura Frantz said...

Amber, A HUGE thank you to you for wanting to post about CML! Your questions are wonderful, your pics make me hungry, and I LOVE that you added the real Red Shirt to the gallery:) He was quite the man, wasn't he? Be back later to see if anyone else stops by...

Amanda said...

Since blogger is telling me my comment is too long I’m gonna break it up into two parts :)

Wonderful discussion, Amber! It’s no secret that CML is my favorite book ever so I’m so excited to be discussing it today!! I love what Casey shared – she put it all so well! And that story about seeing a flash of red in the woods was so cute :) I feel the same way every time I hear the “plaintive call of a dove” around my yard! I instantly think of Red Shirt and desperately wish I could step outside and he’d be waiting for me *sigh* Casey’s right, it really is that kind of book!

In my heart Red Shirt truly is a hero like no other. So brave and strong, yet vulnerable and very gentle. A great enigma yet so familiar. How a man can stand so tall yet be so humble at the same time is beyond me! Laura certainly created a hero among heroes when she penned Red Shirt. He was patient understanding personified. He knew Morrow was afraid of him, especially after what his people did to her family, and he treated her with such tender loving care and wooed her spirit, as well as her heart, that it often brought tears to my eyes. I think he was courting her long before she even returned those feelings, long before she ever dreamed that she could :) Gosh, there are so many scenes that stick out in my mind… like when they and their fathers sat at the table for dinner and Red Shirt tried using the utensils, watching to see what she did so he could copy her. His hesitancy and desire to please her was so touching that, like Morrow, I had to swallow down the ache in my throat as well. It made you see that he was a man who aspired to be worthy of the heart of the woman he loved, even in seemingly small areas. Then there was the scene where he proposed and asked her father’s permission and accepted Christ into his heart. That scene truly moved me to tears. He had the vulnerability of a little boy in that scene. To see a big, powerful man like that bow, body and heart, before the Lord was so moving. He thought himself unworthy of God’s love and Morrow’s also. At that moment I wanted to reach into the pages and give him a big hug, but all I could do was will Morrow to hurry up and do it for me! His apparent disbelief that Morrow would accept him was my undoing and I just had to put the book down and run for some tissues. There are so many more scenes and instances where he was so gentle and loving and showcasing that compassionate understanding. He was such a calm protector, yet you knew he feared something happening to Morrow and then their children. There was a solid unwaveringness about him that makes even the reader feel safe and comforted.

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Amanda said...

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I really identified with Morrow. Her life was relatively sheltered but she had lots of fears she needed to overcome and scars she needed to allow the Lord to heal. If I was her I would have made the same decision to come back home. I’ve always gravitated back to the familiar and I think for her it was most important because she not only had to reconnect with her past, she had to face it to be free of it. Not to lose the memory of her family, of course, but to gain back what was lost when they were taken from her. I respect, admire, and am inspired by how far she came and the transformation that took place in her life from cover to cover. There is no greater weight that the chains of fear and unforgiveness and she allowed the Lord to break them and set her free. But hers was a hard lesson in forgiveness, especially towards the latter part of the story when Red Shirt’s father dies and she learns exactly who killed her mother, sister and took her brother. Though, my heart broke more for Red Shirt in that scene. Not only because the pain of losing his father was so fresh but because I think the truth hurt him more than it did Morrow. It was an emotion packed scene to be sure. He bore the burden of his own pain as well as the pain of the woman he loved, I’m sure that was coupled with feelings of helplessness and guilt that something that was a part of him was the cause of her pain. This was another one of those run-for-the-tissue-box scenes.

Morrow also possessed great strength that grew and was evidenced more as the story went on. Once she became a mother herself you could see how that made her stronger and that love she had for her family caused her to endure things in the latter half of the book that I'm not sure she could have handled at the beginning. Like I said, she had an inspiring transformation and is a heroine we all wish we could be :)

Anyway, there is just so much more I could say about this amazing couple and their beautiful love story but I’ll stop here because this comment is A LOT longer than I intended and blogger isn’t happy with me! ;) But can’t you tell I loved this book?? :D

Thanks for this great discussion, Amber, it was a lot of fun! And, Laura, thank you so much for writing this incredible story! :)

Blessings to you both!!
Amanda

Michelle said...

I'm a little later than I intended to be, but I'll join in now.

I loved CML, and I remember just being so captivated when I was reading it. Truly I felt I was swept about 30-50 miles to the east, and 230 years into the past.

I'm from Kentucky, so of course like Morrow I would have returned. I have left home, although I'm in the same state, there are definitely differences between Lexington and eastern Kentucky. Although I love Lexington, and I love living here, Pike county is HOME. It's where my roots are, and I do love going home to visit. I love driving back to Pikeville, and seeing the mountains in the distance.

I loved, loved, loved Red Shirt. He's become one of my favorite literary heroes. Every scene when he's with Morrow is just wonderful. I loved the scenes after he was shot, and especially the one where he took her out to the mountains to show her Cherokee territory. I also loved the scene when he came to Morrow just after McKie had proposed. I have to admit when the brave turned around, and had McKie's scalp, I inwardly cheered. I know it's not very nice, but it seemed to be a very fitting end for McKie.

Laura Frantz said...

Amanda, I was thinking how this discussion COULDN'T be complete without you! Thank you for coming here and leaving all of the above, the longer the better! Some of you are really gifted writers yourselves and I see that in your comments, like Amanda's.

I smiled when you mentioned the table scene. It was one of my favorite scenes in the whole book, conveying what really happens when two people fall in love - wanting to please the other in even the subtlest ways. Thanks for that! I rewrote the conversion scene many times till it had the right feeling. It is actually based on the conversion of a frontiersman in history, Simon Kenton, another Kentuckian whom I love.

And you are so right - the truth of who killed Morrow's family was more emotionally hurtful to RS than Morrow. When you're walking a thin line between two cultures and seeming to please neither, that would come as a huge blow. A moral failing even if it was his father who did such a thing.

So true, Amanda, that there is no greater wieght than the chains of fear and unforgiveness. I've been there and can say Amen:) I think there is a part of me that heals with every book I write, even something as "light" as historical romance/fiction. This isn't Shakespeare, of course, but the beauty of Christian fiction is that we can portray truth and hope in creative ways that hopefully resonate with readers.

So love that this is your favorite book, Amanda! You're a keeper yourself:)

Carla Gade said...

What a fascinating conversation here! The discussion questions are wonderful. Isn't it fun to remember this much loved novel in this fun way. Laura's writing is so rich and full and Morrow's story such a joy to read. So satisfying.

I am glad Morrow went home to Kentucke. I often long to go home, but am sometimes glad I live elsewhere as it has afforded me the chance to grow in ways I would not have otherwise. But for Morrow it seemed to launch her maturity. Happy I was to see Click escourt her there. Morrow's life parallel to Lael's, but oh, so different.

Now, don't get me started on Red Shirt...

Faith Hope Cherrytea said...

not having read the story, i'm enjoying your responses! to your 1st question, i have had to make several and seriously difficult decisions about where to live ~ all made thru searching God's heart for His will and directives... what assurance!
totally loved the tea & sandwiches - deliteful!
thank you Amber! and for the warm welcome ")

Debra E. Marvin said...

Thanks Laura, for posting about Amber's blog. What a great idea to host a book discussion. I'll be adding this to my bookmarks, Amber!

And I'm so missing Morrow and Red Shirt! Laura is my favorite author. She knows it so I'm not being a brown nose! The evolving relationship between them made it difficult to put this book down. You've all said it so well. Red Shirt was an amazing combination of strength and gentleness. I think it's the SECRET combination that makes us fall for any man. Sigh.

As for Morrow--oh it was so easy to love her and she filled my heart with her journey.
I can't wait for The Colonel's Lady.

Laura Frantz said...

Carla, I will remember your wise words about going home and your willing acceptance to grow where you are:) Recently I told the Lord I was going to stop complaining to myself about being away from KY and just concentrate on the good things He's given me here. There are many. Thanks for the reminder!

It's a joy to have you over here as I know you've just returned from a research trip and presentation! I treasure your comments about CML and am so thankful to have you for a reader.

Laura Frantz said...

Faith Hope Cherrytea, What a delightful name:) Thanks for visiting and chiming in even if you haven't read the book! It's always fun to see who shows for tea:)

Laura Frantz said...

Debra,
Oh my! I'm now fully awake this morning, thanks to your very gracious comments!! The "favorite" word always gets me going:) I have to admit your review of CML is one of my favorites and it's time I revisit it AGAIN. All those KY pics you posted make me giddy...
Thanks for filling my heart with your words on my writing journey. Praying for your work as well. You are a blessing!

Renee (SteelerGirl83) said...

I AM HERE! LOL I unexpectedly had to leave town Friday afternoon (no I'm not on the run from the law or anything)and didn't get back till just now...unfortunately I have a HUUUUGE headache so I can't read what everyone has said so far but hopefully I'll be back tomorrow to join in this discussion of my favorite book of 2010!!!! ;-)


XOXO~ Renee

Amber S. said...

Hello everyone!

I'm so sorry it's taken me so long to respond to ya'll--but I have loved reading your comments, and I'm so grateful that you took the time to stop by and share your thoughts! :D

I might not respond very thoroughly to each one of you, but I hope to share some of my own thoughts and again thank you all for coming! :) I just love this book!

And Laura, thank you so much for coming and responding to everyone! You are amazing!!

~Amber

Renee (SteelerGirl83) said...

I LOVED Captain Jack in The Frontiersman's Daughter so it was only natural for me to gravitate towards RS as he was kind of the, for lack of a better word at the moment, bad boy type. He was dangerous and mysterious and yet oh so intriguing. I think Morrow didn't know who she was when she first came back from her aunt's house, frontier girl or city girl. In order to find love I think she first had to find out who she was as a person before she could acknowledge another person especially one who could quite possibly hurt her in the long run. I think RS's ability to be patient with Morrow and not force anything on her including the cloth which he never asked about was one of the reasons I fell for him and I think that's one reason Morrow was able to love him too. I definitely would have married RS. I mean he's handsome, kind-hearted and understanding. As or the risk, life was tough EVERYWHERE on the frontier so moving and traveling with RS who was an expert woodsman and hunter would be the best choice IMO! ;-)

XOXO~ Renee

Amber S. said...

Once again, I am super sorry that I was not more involved in this book discussion!

Thank you Joy, Casey, Renee Ann, Hannah, Bluerose, Elise, Adge, Trinity Rose, Ruth, Amanda, Michelle, Carla, Faith Hope Cherrytea, Debra, Renee, and (of course!) Laura for stopping by and joining in the tea party/discussion! It was such a pleasure to see all of you here and read your comments! :D

For those of you who haven't read the book: what are you waiting for?! Just kidding. ;) But in all honesty, this is an amazing book and one you will definitely want to add to your keeper shelf! I highly recommend it!

I feel bad for not responding to each one of you personally, especially since you all took the time to stop by and put a lot of thought into your responses. :( But please know that I appreciate ya'll and I'm so glad you could stop by! :)

~Amber

P.S. Bluerose--I wish you could come for a visit so we could go the Mad Hatter's Tea Party! I think you would for sure love it. :)

Debra--I'm with you: I can't wait for The Colonel's Lady!!!

To all new visitors/followers--So happy to meet you and I look forward to chatting more with you in the future! :)

Laura Frantz said...

Renee, I was so hoping you would show up:) And I love your insightful comments here. I certainly would have married RS, too! In a heartbeat! You've made such a good point regarding the danger. Morrow couldn't been any safer than right beside him. And he was very patient with her. Thanks for all this. Hoping you have a great day! So happy to have you in the drawing:)